Discussion between Bernard, Darryl and Veno through the Portal

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Bernard: Give a perspective on the use of ‘swear words’, like ‘fucking’.

Darryl: ‘Fuck’, ‘shit’, ‘damn’…

Bernard: ‘Damn’, ‘fuck’, ‘shit’, ‘holy Christ’, ‘whore’.

Veno: It is fascinating because within the words, ‘swear words’ is a very ‘direct expression’ which contains ‘Actual Expression’, in some cases. Are we specifically relating it to the utilization of swear words within our… ?

Bernard: Yes.

Veno: Within the video interviews and the conversation

Bernard: within our – the context we’re using it in.

Veno: Within the context that we’re using it is a ‘Very Direct, Intense Expression’.

The ‘Word’ is an ‘Arrow’ that ‘shoots’ right into the core of the entire Mind Consciousness System Design. Why the utilization of ‘swear words’? Because, of the ‘Conservative Design’ of Beings within and through the Mind Consciousness System.

What I mean by the word ‘Conservative’ is the way Beings have ‘designed themselves’ according to: ‘how I must be’; ‘how I must act’; and ‘how I must behave in presentation of myself towards, as a projection of myself towards others within my world, my reality’.

In other words, it is the ‘Deceptive Self’ that is being ‘penetrated’’ within the utilization of the ‘swear words’, within the context we’re using it. Because, we’re using it as a very, as I’ve explained, ‘Intense, Direct Expression that Penetrate that Deceptive-Self-Projected-Manifestation’ that is presented, and ‘hit’ right into the actual ‘Truth Core’ of the Being. So that’s ‘why’ there will be – interestingly enough – ‘more extensive reactions’ to ‘us’ using swear words than you’d have within Beings within your world, having normal conversations, I suggest beings actually ‘observe’ that point.

Bernard: It’ll be words ‘you use yourself’ and yet when ‘we use it’’, you will ‘react’ to it. But basically, it also allows for a fascinating thing, for those that participate ‘apparently’ in the Desteni Process, but are ‘actually dishonest’ and are not doing it ‘actually for themselves’, but have ‘self-interest’, it’ll expose them and they will attack us. Which is exactly ‘one’ of the reasons why we would use - particularly opening up the Deceptive Beings that are ‘deliberately’ wanting to ‘harm’ the Message of Self-Honesty as Life, Equal and One. There is ‘no way’ you can ‘take on such a message’ without ‘being deceptive’.

Veno: So through how we stand ‘as the word’, in hearing it, it completely ‘exposes’ the Truth of the Being.

Bernard: And they will not be able to ‘handle’ the ‘friction’ that it generates within them, so they will kind of go into a form of a ‘frenzy’.

Veno: You know, using it as an excuse for ‘why I am not participating’ or ‘why I am not applying’

Bernard: ‘I am not willing to actually change’, and then building ‘many things around it’ – why one would believe you have a ‘better answer’, which is fascinating. There is ‘no better answer’, there is ‘no worse answer’ – it’s simple: We are Not Equal and One as Life – we better get to it, or we will ‘Not Exist’, it’s that simple.

Darryl: It’s funny that there’s not that – the criticism doesn’t come to that point, it’s more than: ‘what you’re doing has been said before’ and ‘it’s a pipe dream’ – but not the ‘actual point’ of Oneness and Equality.

Bernard: ‘The biggest attackers’, in terms of our Desteni Message, has ‘all been exposed’ through ‘swear words’ – all of them. So, every video that you will see which is ‘attacking us’, the ‘point’ that started it, was ‘swear words’. If you look at, for instance, many of the videos that was placed by Donald, in ‘many different false personalities that he used’, for instance, that started with the swear words. So, you ‘link’ the e-mails of discussions where we explained how it works, and ‘in spite of explaining how it works’, he still kept on attacking – because simply ‘he had to be right’. ‘Can’t use the swear words!’ Which is fascinating. There will be many more – we know.

Veno: Even after we have explained.

(Laughter)

Bernard: Even after we explained it, they will still not Apply Self-Honesty and Self-Forgiveness. Anyway, the problem is when you get to that ‘point’, you have ‘dishonoured yourself’ to such an extent from within the Principle of Self-Forgiveness and Self-Honesty, that you have not taken Self-Responsibility for ‘You as Life’ from the perspective of ‘the Bigger Picture’ – you’re simply more concerned about, for instance: ‘having a positive outcome’, ‘or love’, ‘or saving my family’, or ‘saving my loved ones’ – or… something ‘totally irrelevant’ within the Principle that is At Play. You will attempt to have ‘that’ as a valid point. We’ve had many different ones, for instance: ‘beings trying to save their family’, they want their family ‘to be the same’, they believe that ‘apparently’ we have ‘deleted these beings’… I mean, what kind of ‘Power Games’ are they talking about? We are simplistically sharing ‘What is Actually Happening’, which was an ‘Inevitable Turning Point’ within Existence, where Everybody would get to a Point where Everything would Change. ‘Somebody’ was going to have to give ‘that message’ – exactly what we’re doing, we’re doing it in ‘exact terms’, of ‘exactly what happens’. The ‘Quest’ for many was: ’Just Tell Us The Truth!’ – we’re doing that exactly, 100% exactly what’s happening. And have a look, what happens? It’s fascinating: they still want someone ‘special’ – I mean, what the fuck?

Darryl: They want the truth in their own terms.

Bernard: Within ‘the ways they want to interpret it’ – that ‘suits their interpretation’. Self-Interest.

Veno: Basically, looking for a ‘validation’ or ‘confirmation’ of their own interpretation.

Bernard: ‘Of their own ideas’. ‘Their own ideas’ Cannot Exist Equal and One for All, unless they’re God and unless ‘they’re right’. Equality and Oneness is Equal for Everyone, have a look: ‘No God’ possible, ‘no special one’ possible, ‘Everyone Taken Care of’ – I mean, give me ‘a better answer’ for Existence. There is not one.

Anyone that ‘questions such an answer’, has got their ‘own interpretation’ ‘valued higher’ than the Equality of All Life and they are ‘attempting’ to ‘play God’. I suggest to them: ‘Stop, you know not what you are doing to yourself’.

And hear me: you will not be able to ‘keep up’ your Dishonesty – not in the face of what awaits such ‘deliberance’ to ‘harm Life’. ‘Life’ do not ‘forgive’ – you can only Forgive Yourself.

Darryl: What we have been discussing is different manifestations of life of …Ebola of viruses – cholera… nature – I mean, we still have extinction of animals coming continuously.

Bernard: All ‘Forms of Life’ within the context of its ‘designs’, as it is ‘manifested’, are an ‘Expression’, are a… ‘Placement’, a ‘Form’ of ‘what is inside each Human Being’.

If you ‘go back’, ‘through your lives’ - which you will have a chance for, eventually -- you will notice that every single thing that exists: you have ‘in some form’ ‘Created-it’.

And, the same way a ‘Virus’ becomes ‘Aware of Itself’, was ‘the way’ ‘you became aware of yourself’ in Your Process of ‘Evolution’ throughout Consciousness, throughout ‘A Very Long Time’. It is ‘Beyond Measure’ – the ‘Time-Frame’ we are looking at.

Darryl: Does our nature remain the same, essentially, throughout All Lifetimes?

Veno: Interestingly enough, you ‘Created Your Own Nature’, ‘the Truth of You’ through your experiences, throughout your lifetimes – so, ‘what you are now’ as The Truth of You is a ‘product’ of ‘Your Own Creation’ throughout your experiences in your Past Lives.

Bernard: Which means that - because you have not ‘lived’ as a Directive Principle, Equal and One as Life and ‘lived as’ the ‘experience’ from which you have ‘designed you’ as the principle of ‘protecting you within your experiences’ – ‘that’ has created ‘Who You Are’ as the Nature of You. And ‘that’ has Created Existence – the way it is.

Veno: The Nature of Existence.

Darryl: People aren’t taught to look at their nature, more at their ‘personality’ or ‘their perspective’.

Veno: Personality is still just ‘one affliction’ of ‘a particle’ of ‘Your Nature’.

Bernard: The Principle of the Mind Consciousness System as it Exists Here, was very cleverly taken by ‘the Programmers’. And ‘what’ the Nature of ‘each was’, was ‘placed within a Design’ to ‘trap you within it’. Which suited obviously, Life ‘Perfectly’, because it brought everyone to the Point of Equality to Their Nature, as it is Manifested Now. That is ‘the Role’ those beings played within their particular desires, without realizing: you cannot be ‘anything else’ but what everyone else is and allow you to be. And therefore, within the Design of Consciousness, as an ‘Interpretation of Life’, Everyone is now Equal as Their Nature and Each One ‘plays’ their Role – now it is ‘Exposure’ to ‘Who You Really Are’.

Veno: Not what you ‘present’ yourself to be.

Bernard: Yes.

Veno: And beings ‘know’ ‘what they present themselves to be’, that presentation is not –

Bernard: You ‘know’ that you’re ‘projecting to others’ ‘an idea of yourself’.

Veno: Each being knows what’s really going on inside themselves.

Bernard: There is no Being in Existence that ‘don’t know’ – even the child that is apparently having some form of brain damage, inside them, they’re aware of what they’re doing.

Veno: Oh yeah, and what they’re allowing.

Bernard: It’s fascinating. There is ‘No Excuses’.

Darryl: So we purify ourselves with Self-Honesty and Self-Forgiveness.

Bernard: You ‘prepare the way’ to Purification with Self-Honesty and Self-Forgiveness. It doesn’t ‘Purify you’, per say. You have to ‘Live’ your Purifications ‘in Actuality’ and through that ‘Create Yourself as Existence’ in a Purified Form, Equal as One as Life, which will take a little while.

Veno: Because that is done through you actually walking ‘practically’ in every moment while ‘facing’ your True Manifested Nature through experience.

Bernard: Being tested at ‘every single point’ until you Stand for Certain and not just are in a point where you say “I stand” but the moment you get tested ‘you fall’. Understand that within the Principle of Holographics, where ‘the Whole’ is ‘contained in a Part’, as you’re Purifying Yourself and you get to a point where You Fall and that ‘Very Point’ – Everything you’ve already Purified is ‘Again Contaminated’ -- You Start Again. Until you walk ‘Right Through’ the ‘Whole Process’, the ‘Totality of Consciousness’ - without Falling. That, Everyone is Equal and One as.

And have a look, that’s ‘the Only Way’ we can Ever be ‘Equal and One within Consciousness’ if we All actually walk, exactly, the Same Path. Which is what is happening.

Veno: Yep, Equal and One.

Bernard: We Understood all these things and accordingly – of course it was understood, ‘it was Its Time’. And therefore, the Change happened. And ‘not before’ and ‘not later’. That was the point.

Veno: Just another point that came through quite extensively, Interdimensionally, is to give more support and assistance, is ‘Beings Waiting to be Ready’. Meaning kind of going into a state of ‘Seclusion’ within themselves as an attempt to say – “this reality exists just wait a moment I just quickly want to prepare myself. I want to wait to be ready. I want to decide when I will be ready.”

That doesn’t work that way.
Meaning Reality, Existence, You as Everything is not going to ‘wait for you’. Everything is already Playing Out, in every single moment.
I suggest you walk ‘immediately’, ‘in every moment’ and you trust you in walking as the Principle of Life. And because ‘the waiting to be ready’ is also an excuse as an attempt to ‘hide’ from reality – which makes everything just ‘so much worse’, ‘so much bigger’, ‘so much more’. Than actually just kind of ‘Embracing what is Here’ and walking.

Bernard: And understand the point about your ‘Age’ in this reality. That has got ‘nothing to do’ with your Process. It has got ‘only to do’ with your ‘Experience’ within your Process. Which is a Point of Self-Honesty. If you really look at it – because – ‘obviously’ when you’re ‘Older’ you’re gonna have a ‘Lesser Time’ on Earth within your Process. If you ‘postpone’, because apparently you’re not going to be able to ‘Complete your Process on Earth’ – I mean – all that means is exactly the same. You’re ‘Postponing’, not only for You but for Everyone Else. That is ‘unacceptable’ and immediately you change your Process to ‘become Dimensional’, quicker. Which means, in the Dimensions you will Experience a ‘Dreamlike Experience’. But not ‘An Actual One’ from the Perspective of the Physical. It will ‘assist’ but you will be tested in the Physical then you have to wait for ‘another body’ to get in here and come and do it all again.
I suggest ‘Don’t wait’, ‘Age’ has got nothing to do with it.

Veno: ‘Who You Are’ is not ‘Your Age’.

Bernard: Absolutely.

Veno: Don’t use Age as An Excuse.

Bernard: When we are referring to ‘Age’, we are referring to ‘Age within the Construct within the Preparation Phase for the Future Lives that You’ll Be Here’. We’re preparing ‘those’ to be as Effective as Possible, to Support You. Therefore we focus on a ‘Younger Generation’ to assist with that Preparation.

Veno: And so that you can understand for yourself and what it is that you’re going to be facing so that you’re able to prepare to assist and support yourself effectively.

Bernard: This is not going to ‘end’ in ‘One Life’. This is going to ‘End’ when it is ‘Done’ and All As Equal and One as Life. I suggest that the only ‘Timekeeper’ within that, is Your Breath. If you remain Self-Honest within Every Breath and you ‘Remain Here’ supporting, specifically, deliberately, Life Equal as All as One -- not allowing the deception to continue within the Power that is ‘there for you’ in Every Breath – you will Find ‘your way’ Opening up. You will ‘find’ the Opportunities to ‘drop your limitations’ and Expand your Sphere of Influence. And to ‘Amalgamate’ and become More Effective.

If you ‘don’t’ – I mean, You will Bear the Consequences of your Actions. Either way you look at it – it remains Equal and One to ‘Who You Are’. That ‘nature of you’, ‘the nature of you to wait’ will ‘bear down on your shoulders’ and therefore you will ‘wait’ to find ‘The Ultimate Answer to Yourself’ -- Equal and One!

Darryl: Okay so the younger people, put more the focus on them.

Bernard: The older people through their experience should be find it within themselves to change to a Principled Living and support the Younger Generations to ‘prepare the way’ for the Next Lives, effectively.

Veno: Because then you, yourself might within your next life end up being a child of one of them.

Bernard : Correct. So therefore, you are ‘Preparing your own Parents’.

(Darryl Laughs)

Veno: yeah, your own support, your own assistance in this world.

Bernard: Understand that this is not ‘Real Incarnation’ as it was.  This is ‘Deliberate’, ‘Active Ways’ in which one Support Yourself to Actually Evolve to the Point where you’re Equal to Consciousness. Only ‘in Consciousness’, can you ‘Evolve’. It is a Process, of Evolution, and it has ‘an End’. When ‘the End is Reached Within Consciousness’ you’ll be able to then Stand As the Directive Principle of Yourself as Life. And that moment ‘the Garment’, ‘the Dressing’,’ the Projection’ called ‘Consciousness’ will be no more. But there is No Other Way Out of It. It is ‘Limited Beyond Imagination’. Although from your ‘Current Interpretation and Projection’ it seems to be ‘Vast’.

Darryl: Well, it is Multi-Dimensional.

Bernard: Obviously, and you’re only experiencing yourself from a ‘Single View Point’ within a ‘Vastness’ which is ‘One Being’ called ‘Consciousness’. You are Responsible though ‘Directly and Indirectly’ to Every Single Point that Exists Within And As It, which is Manifested as Separate Beings.

It is fascinating obviously.

But the consideration must be given to the Implication of ‘What is Here’ and what has become of ‘what we have Created’ and ‘what we have Projected’, as ‘Here’, which is ‘Not Real’. It is a ‘Temporary Experience’ which may last ‘Billions of Years’. Yet – it is ‘Temporary’.

Veno: Yeah, temporary because it is.

Darryl: You know, we were talking earlier about the ‘Mind-Wipe’ and people who’ve been complaining that “oh I can’t remember my life, my last life how will I know I live in a next life”. I mean that’s the ‘complaint’.

Veno: But that’s not determined according to your Mind, that’s determined according to Who You Are.

Bernard:  That’s determined by ‘How You Live’. ‘Not’ your memories.

Darryl: Exactly.

Bernard: It is determined by your actions.

Darryl: It just shows us where we use our memories to tell us who we are.

Bernard: Exact.
Your memories – when you ‘Value Your Memories’ you must know you are in ‘Severe Trouble’. I mean, you will end up on The Other Side with ‘Nothing’. Which is ‘rather sad’ cause then you start from scratch. And I mean you’ve wasted ‘All of this Experience’ AND you still have to Pay for all the Harm you did as Your Nature -- meaning you have to Experience it until you eventually Purify from such bullshit.

Veno: Here’s another point on the question was asked with regards to ‘why is it that in crossing over you face you have to stand before each and every single being or manifestation or expression of what you were directly responsible for within your living actions’. ‘Why can’t I just apply my Own Self-Forgiveness within myself and that would be effective enough – why you know, I don’t have to face them’.

Understand that due to the ‘Extensivity’ of ‘Self-Deception’ and ‘Expression’ of that Deception wherein beings believe that I can – ‘I only have to do my process Internally and then everything is fine and perfect’. Wherein in only doing it Internally, you’re actually only doing it ‘through your Mind’. You haven’t yet Proven to Yourself in Living Action that your Process that you have assisted and supported yourself within, the Self-Forgiveness and the Self-Corrective Action was Actually ‘Effective’.

You have to go through the ‘Actual Living, Action Experience’ to see if your self-assistance, self-support was actually effective in that it is actually ‘Standing before the Beings’, ‘Standing before the Nature of Yourself in Physical Manifestation,  Before Yourself’ -- because within that you will see The Truth of You, Who You Really Are.

Darryl: So you cannot do Process ‘in private’.

Veno: Meaning you can’t do it ‘in a cave’, ‘in a secluded room’, just by yourself and go into the belief that “Oh, I’m done. I am free from what I have done, accepted and allowed.” It is to actually ‘go out there’ and Face Yourself in Physical Manifestation.

Bernard: Let’s put it this way: You will Not Be Free, Until Everyone is Free – Equal and One. Get used to it, make peace with it. Cause if you ‘don’t’ you’ll only Prolong your Own Experiences.

Veno: Jah, Robbert Monroe did an article on that point – just for a reference if anyone wants to read.

Darryl: Well, this is the last interview I’ll be a part of for a while so it’s been very fascinating.

Bernard: Let’s see what happens

Darryl: We’ll see what happens. Haha alright, thanks everybody. That is it.