Discussion between Bernard, Darryl and Veno through the Portal
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Darryl: No well, those lucky enough to get into the Afterlife are they acquainted with the Principle of Oneness and Equality before they go into their ‘reveal’?
Veno: Oh well, when you ‘cross-over’ you ‘immediately’ understand ‘Everything’. Meaning you know exactly ‘where you are’, ‘why are you experiencing what you’re experiencing’, ‘the perspective of the process’, ‘where you stand within yourself’ and ‘where you’re starting’, ‘what is required to be faced’,’ how to face it’ and you’re...walking your individual process.
Bernard: Everything from the beginning of everything you know, everything. Instantaneous.
And it means...Nothing!
Veno: No it doesn’t.
Bernard: You’ll learn the ‘Ultimate lesson about Knowledge’. ‘All Knowledge is Useless’. It’s not about ‘the knowledge’ – it is about ‘who you are’.
Veno: I mean you can have all the Knowledge there is in Existence but it will not assist and support you to live ‘a Practical life’, Equal and One - to ‘Actually Live’.
Bernard: To actually live and participate in Existence in a way where you do not ‘harm’ another and do not ‘allow’ another to harm another. Where everyone is actually looking out for each other. And where everyone actually love each other – equally.
Because I mean, ‘Love’ is a concept that is ‘Yet to be Born’. It is Birth in your Realisation that All Life is Equal. And then you must ‘practically live that’. Even through the ‘tough love points’ where you have to ‘intervene’ practically to say “This must STOP, this is not acceptable”.
So, when in our Research and in our Experiences through the Interdimensions we came to these points. ‘Particular interventions’ were allowed to be made, to bring the Process of our ‘continuous infliction of self-destructive, disenchanted, dishonest behaviour upon each other’ to a ‘conclusive end’.
Darryl: Can you tell us any of those interventions were?
Bernard: Simplistically, the Inversion of Everyone’s Process, towards themselves only. So therefore, every point that is to be experienced is totally only self-responsible points. Particularly Manifested from the Perspective that each one must face their true nature in relationship to events and experiences as it exists.
So investigate ‘your nature’. How you experience yourself ‘within’ events and experiences ‘within’ conversations – ‘within’ the presence of people. So that you can see who you are!
Veno: That ‘nature’ is not what you present to others – it is not how you act or behave.
Bernard: The actual experience.
Veno: It’s what going on inside yourself.
Bernard: If you’re sitting next to a person and you’re feeling extremely uncomfortable meaning you just want to run away , then you better have a look at ‘why that is so’.
Veno: What is this person representing of yourself? That you’re wanting to run away from.
Bernard: That you have ‘not taken care of’. That you have ‘not amalgamated with’. How did you limit yourself to judge another in a particular way that they’re ‘apparently bad’ and you’re ‘apparently good’. I mean that is ‘judgment’ that is ‘unacceptable’.
Within the context, of for instance, the Desteni material. We’re ‘particularly’ for instance doing interviews where we are – you can say we are ‘giving consciousness a little “bump”’. Just to assist with beings to ‘come out’ and ‘dump their shit on us’ – so to speak. So that one can assist them in that ‘dumping’ to ‘see what they are’. We’re doing that ‘deliberately’. I mean we know what we’re doing in terms of the Process in Existence, we see ‘the Exact Every Point as it Moves’. The ‘Actuality’. We will Not Intervene in an Individual Process from the perspective of ‘any assistance’. Only assisting you to see yourself – that’s it.
Veno: So you can face yourself.
Bernard: So if you’re reacting to Desteni material. Or you find yourself ‘apparently superior’ or you find that ‘apparently you could have done it better’ – why don’t you?
And I tell you now, you won’t, you haven’t ‘got the guts’ to be ‘honest’ or ‘directive’. ‘Big Mouths’ in Existence, there are many. Those that ‘Stand Up’ and ‘Actually Act as an Act of Actual Love’ -- There is not even enough that one can count on a single hand at this time in Existence.
Very, very few.
Self-interest is what? ‘Who you are’ ‘in the moment of crisis’. It’s a moment of you in the proximity of another. The moment of you as you view an event on tv, the moment that you write a word. The moment you are in conversation with another. What happens inside you is ‘Your Truth’. That’s ‘Who you Really Are’. It is not ‘beautiful’, it is not ‘pretty’, it’s ugly.
‘What comes out your mouth’ is ‘deception’. It is Not the Truth of what is going on inside you. As long as your ‘Inner Reality’ and your ‘Spoken Word’ – that means your ‘thought reality’ and your ‘speaking, living reality’ is not Equal and One. You are not Equal and One even with Yourself.
You have those unfortunate enough, that they have ‘become’ the manifestation of their ‘thoughts as their outer reality’ so that they’re Equal and One to their Deception. There are many of those. We will not even ‘speak of them’ because the chances that they in this life will be able to transcend is negligible – they are simply ‘props’ assisting those that have a chance.
Veno: They don’t even make it in the Interdimensional Existence. (Inaudible)
Bernard: You have ‘no right of existence’. I mean, you’re just a ’Program Interpreting Information’ – what rights do you have? That ‘the right to have the ability to interpret information’, I mean that is a choice , what choice do you have, it is dishonest.
Veno: You are an ‘Interpretation of an Interpretation’ -- because you’re copying your Parents Interpretation of themselves in Relationship to their World, their Environment and then from ‘their interpretation’ ‘you interpret yourself’ in relation to your World, your Environment. Which is extensive.
Darryl: And then you’ll have children, and then they do the same as you
Bernard: Imagine, Every Manifested System in the World from your education system, money system, family system. ‘All of that’ is now based on an Externalization of the Interpretation System as the Mind Consciousness System. Because you are ‘buying stuff’ as an ‘interpretation’ of ‘how you feel’ or ‘how you wanna feel’. You are ‘clothing yourself’ as an ‘interpretation’ of ‘how you feel’ or ‘how you wanna feel’ or ‘how you want others to feel about you’. You are ‘putting on make-up’ as an ‘Interpretation System’ as either a ‘Projection towards other’ so that they can have ‘an interpretation of you’. Have a look our TV is full of that. It’s all projected. Our movie stars what are they? They are images that is placed ‘particularly’ there, to build ways that you may ‘interpret yourself’ so that you can kind of develop ‘another interpretation of yourself’ and apparently through that ‘feel better about yourself’. But none of that is real, not even ‘the self that is attempting to feel’.
Veno: Yeah
Bernard: All of it is just ‘a System’. That is why, when one face ‘Real, Actual Situations’, like ‘Animals being Skinned Alive’ you will not know what to do to stop it. Firstly because you are a System, because you ‘Fear the System’. Secondly, you will not do anything about it. You may speak up, join some NGO, some ‘non-profit governmental organisation’ which is simply the Systems way of ‘diverting your attention’ and keeping and you busy so you can feel better about what you are now are traumatized about.
What is you ‘Real Trauma’ actually about, watching animal being skinned alive? You fear ending up in that position. Now let me tell you, you are going to. I mean, that’s the best possible experience imaginable because once you have had that experience enough times, you will not allow it. Therefore, as the animals ‘emerge’ in this world be prepared for things not viewed by human eyes before. As the viruses and the bacteria in this world come to the aid of those that has suffered, there is not a ‘single medicine’ in this world that will protect man from that which Earth will present.
Veno: They already can’t pick up.
Bernard: And it will ‘multiply’. Understand, the ‘necessity of this’ because the Human Race will not stop, we know that. We have tested it in every possible way, the Human Race will not stop their abuse.
At this stage it is uncertain whether there will be a Human Race at all. If enough Human Beings do not ‘Stand’, the whole ‘exercise’ is pointless, but the abuse will not be allowed to continue.
There is an opportunity for Humanity to stop, but there is also ‘a line’ that says no more, it is as it must be.
So, for a moment, what has been assumed? And Here, what has been ‘considered’ is that because all human beings were ‘subjected’ to a Mind Consciousness System, they have a ‘Momentary Point of Innocence’. But that does not ‘equate’ for what they allow as the Nature of Themselves. The Nature of One-self is ‘what you have allowed yourself to become’. That which you are ‘One as’, that which is really happening within yourself, that which you think about when you masturbate, that which you think of when you visualise, you know having a experience involving another being against their will. And remember ‘all visualisations’ always involve other beings where you assume they do things the way you want them to do. They are never there as an ‘actual experience’. It’s all one where you are the one that decide what must happen because that is the way you would like it to be.
Veno: Where you are ‘God’ in your own reality,
Bernard: You are ‘God’ in your reality. You are a ‘superhero’ in your Mind. And that visualisations, by God, they will play out.
Darryl: You know, you make the example of the animal being skinned alive. What could we do to stop just that one thing.
Bernard: There is really… What is fascinating, one must consider the following ‘Very Clearly’ and Really Understand what Equality and Oneness means. It means that everyone gets an Equal Opportunity to restore the Oneness of Life. That means, that everyone will have ‘no more power’ within this Reality than what they are able to do, within the Breath they have, within the People they Connect with, which makes Everyone ‘Equally Responsible’.
So, you may in a day meet with a person who you will assist in understanding Equality and Oneness as Life. And that person might be able to make get another person to understand it. And through that ‘sequence of sharing’ one’s understanding, one’s deliverance, one’s ‘actuality of standing up’ and not accepting what is happening in the world. Through that -- enough beings will get to a point, to stop it. Not a single human being alone will stop it. It will take the ‘combined effort’ of Humanity. That is the point of Equality and Oneness. There will not be just a few.
Within that context, one must understand the following, that there will be a point where a line is drawn. Where those that ‘deliberately refuse’ will simply be ‘assisted’ by Nature and by the Forces that is Here as Life to ‘swap dimensions’, from the Earth to the Afterlife -- and there they will continue their Journey of Self-Honesty. But you will not be allowed a ‘blank slate’ to ‘disenfranchise’ or ‘disempower those’ that are serious about their business. Such a point is inevitable.
Those that ‘do realize’ and participate, obviously the more Effective they are In Every Breath, the sooner that point, that ‘Equilibrium’ will be reached. Where the coin flips.
But no one knows that moment. Because if you have ‘known the moment’ you would do nothing. Therefore each one will be ‘measured’ according to ‘Who They Really Are’ and ‘what they really did’. Not ‘what they wished for’, not ‘what they wanted the world to be’ -- but what they Actually Did to get it to the way that it Actually Serves All Life, Equal and One. The ‘actions they took’, ‘how they were willing to let their pride go’. ‘How far where they willing to go’, ‘where did you put your money’ will be the big question, ‘what did you do with your money?’
That will be the ‘Ultimate Question’, because ‘the money you have’ is the Nature of Yourself. What you do with it, is Your Nature.
And every point will be in-depth be considered. And you know the truth of that within yourself, each one does.
Understand that the Systems of the World, the Laws of the World are ‘deliberately designed’ to keep you enslaved ‘within’ the Mind Consciousness System, it is an Externalization of the Way you are Protecting your own Possessions. So that nobody can ‘take away’ what is yours. There is ‘One Master’ that takes it all away, that is ‘Death’. No one has ‘mastered’ that ‘Master’. Not even Jesus.
Veno: Nope
Bernard: But have a look how ‘the promise of Jesus’ is used to ‘keep the systems going’, to keep the dishonesty going, to keep skinning the animals alive in the name of Jesus Christ. What a ‘dishonour’ to Jesus and what he came to show. And remember, the ‘name of a man’ is irrelevant, it is ‘the deeds of the man’, the Deeds that Stand. There is few in this world that will be willing to carry a cross to his own death, that will have the resolve to do such an act.
Darryl: I reckon because most people won’t see the use of it.
Bernard: Obviously. But I mean, if that is ‘required of you’ and you ‘see no other way’, would you do it? At the end of the day, that is the question that one must answer for yourself. The problem is, is if you ‘cannot answer that question’ , then you must have a Life where that ‘happens’ to you. Because that Life is ‘Consequential in the Understanding of Standing Up and Placing yourself Vulnerable before Life and say: ‘I am at Your Service Life - No Matter What’. ‘Here I Am!’ and you stretch yourself out arms, sides, ‘Standing’. ‘I Embrace Life, I Am this Life, this Life that is ‘inherent’ in Everything’. ‘I Stop my Separation, I Am One as Life, Life is Who I Am’.
Understand, be careful when the ‘I’ is ‘not Life’ and the ‘I’ is something that is ‘amming’, which means I am. That means I am ‘aiming’ for Life but I am not ‘Actualizing it’. I am still ‘accepting the System’ and ‘I am not acting or coming forth with the Solutions within my Own Life to stop what has ‘become’ of us, as Humanity within the ‘context’ of our Interpretation of Life and what Life ‘apparently means’, then one has a ‘serious problem’. You must realize that it cannot continue.