Interviews with Bernard Poolman
25 Jul 09
Bernard:
Okay - so, Today we are going to talk about an
interesting phenomena. And this is especially an exercise for people
that participate in the ‘Law of Attraction’, people that has a very
strong belief in Love and Fairness, in Equity...ehm...in Equality – to
establish if your assessment of your positioning within your current
Belief-status, your current Principled-status, your Value-System: if
that Value-System is actually supporting you.
In the arena of
Sales and ‘Positive Thinking’ and ‘Law of Attraction’, there is a little
exercise which very much work like...establishing a balancing-point:
Where you draw a line in the middle of the page and on the one side you
write all the positive-attributes and on the other side you write all
the negative-attributes.
Now for purposes of our exercise we
are going to use a very Controversial-point. We’re going to use
Micro-chipping. The question is: Is Micro-chipping beneficial = best for
Humanity or...and that means is Micro-chipping Good – or is
Micro-chipping Evil?
Now in answering this question, you’re
going to establish if you’re really pushing yourself in some
Self-Honesty; you’re going to establish whether you are a Self-honest
person or whether you are actually being Controlled by Information and
Fear...ehm...thus you’ll establish whether you are actually interested
in a Solution for the World that is actually Best for All of Humanity.
Now let’s start with the negatives of the Micro-chip – we will do some negatives and some positives.
A negative is obviously that it is all about Control. Now – Control is a
fascinating thing – because Control, if in the hands of a Few for the
purposes of power, would seemingly be a bad thing and that seems
throughout History that that has happened; And that the Masses, that
means the Many, has somehow always fallen-for the Few being in Control
and always had an excuse why ‘they could do nothing about it’.
It mean, I mean it is demonstrated the fact that a single man could
control a whole Nation – the Germans specifically – and get them all to
stand-together on a single Principle. That means that the German race
itself has a better Future possible.
Obviously it’s never seen
as such a ‘positive’ message that is behind Hitler - but if one really
go and have a look at What he was standing for: He was standing for a
Better life for his People.
Now – if one extend that to a Better Life for All, then obviously one must...have to consider all the Control-issues.
Imagine yourself being a Parent and your Child has been abducted or
hijacked or has disappeared: the amount of Anguish and Fear that you
go-through while you do not know where your Child is.
Now with the
Micro-chip – where the technology already exist - where the Micro-chip
can be picked-up with the Satellite with a particular-Frequency = it
will be simplistic to find your Child because your child simply be
picked-up on the Scan.
And, although there is still at this
stage some Points where they might be able to ‘hide’ and not be
picked-up, the Technology is developing to the stage where that will not
even be a feasible point: where for instance all the locations where
the Chip will not be able to be transmitting = will be able to be
Mapped, and one will have a much smaller search-area to go and find the
Child.
That will also obviously serve as a control, which
prevents the people that prey-on the Children for their purposes of
satisfaction of their desires = will be Stopped or will at least, the
very minimum, be Prevented from considering it if they realize what the
problem is.
Technology exist which can be incorporated in the
Chip to control your Health, meaning that it could actually, through a
connection or a measurement of your current Health-status –because if
you look at your physical-body: it is a chemical-Construct- so if there
is certain chemicals within your Balancing-factors that is
out-of-balance, which is then leaving you not in your Optimum
Healthy-state:
your Chip can signal a central control-room which
will then immediately let you know that you require some medical
assistance = thus diagnosing a problem long before it occur and
preventing the problem - which is...the purpose of Health-Care is to
prevent problems; not to go to Health-Care once you have a problem.
Therefore the Micro-chip will be extremely effective in assisting you to prevent problems.
If one look at what has happened this last week in Durban with
shop-looters storming shops, looting the shops because they have No Food
to eat, and then demanding from government an Equal Minimum Wage for
All People in the country = this kind of activity will escalate -
because as the Economic-situation becomes more and more precarious
and...causing more and more People to be without Basic-Sustenance and
Basic...ehm...Basic Living-standards = more and more will demand that an
answer must be found for those that are disenfranchised by an
Economic-System that has never ever actually catered for All Living
Beings on Earth –all Humans at the very least.
So – this kind of situation will increase. Obviously at the moment Governments claim that ‘it is not possible to be done’.
We completely disagree = (we say) that it is absolutely possible –
because at the end of the day: We as the Human make the ‘rules’ by which
we communicate –and Money is a form of Communication, it’s a
Value-System – We make the rules of our Value-System.
Our
current Value-System is based on: the ‘Law of Attraction’ and on
‘Positive Thinking’ and on... some ‘having all’ because they ‘have the
opportunity’, they have the benefit of certain Factors in the
Physical-reality to be on their side to be ‘successful’ – or they have
been trained in a particular form of Skill that is sought-after and that
benefit the Control-System, which is similar to virtually having a...a
Micro-chip based on a Media-Control and a Education-Control System -
which is already kind of existing.
But there is a Solution to
this problem by having an Equal Wage for All – a Equal Minimum Living
Wage for All Beings from Birth to Death – which will be very easy to
direct with a Micro-chip –
to make sure that nobody can abuse
another’s Wages, and to allow Everyone to be Sustained in terms of being
able to use this Wage only in relation to Food and Shelter and that
which is related-to one’s Basic-Need-fulfilment; To have that linked
also to a central-Management System using a Micro-chip.
Why
would one do that? Because you really can’t trust Humans to actually
manage it - because Humans has already proven themselves to be Corrupt.
Humanity requires a System that is based in physical-Control to actually
prevent Humans from Harming each-other.
Because the Principle
of Consideration for Each-other, you know: ‘Loving thy neighbour as
thyself’ – those kind of things do not exist; those are Utopian-ideas
which even Christianity has proven for 2,000 years cannot work and it
will not work.
And we can no longer wait for some Utopian-idea – we
need to find a Practical CommonSense-Solution that will actually
Benefit All.
So another positive-point for a Micro-chip would be that ehm...one’d be able to manage an Equal Wage System to benefit All.
Now you’ll say “But now, how are you...how are you gonna do...what is
gonna motivate you to be...ehm...produce food and to build roads
and...ehm...Basic-services?”
For that one will have to introduce a
Labour-System: a Labour-Credit-System on which one earn Equal Credits
per Time Worked across-the-board no matter what your Skill – which
means: that brings-in a total-form of Equality.
So whether
you’re a doctor or a grave-digger – you get an Equal Labour Credit-point
for the labour you do according to the Time that it takes and your
Value-System for the more...ehm...call it ‘Luxury-items’ in the world -
like cars and televisions and technology and all those kind of things –
is then based-on a Labour-System: If you don’t work, you don’t get; You
will have Food and Shelter, but you don’t have all the other ‘luxuries’
that is available.
Obviously with a Chip it’s very nice: if
somebody steals, it will be easy to track them and therefore to Prevent
all Crime – a Chip will be one of the best ways to...to ‘protect one’s
property’ from your ‘fellow devious humans’.
We have a world in which these things are now extensively out-of-control, and our police-forces cannot sustain a solution.
While with a Micro-chip you’ll need a very small (human-)force to
actually maintain ‘law and order’ - because many more people will remain
within the bounds of their...their lives –
because their Basic
minimum Needs are met in terms of Food and Shelter, their children are
edu...being Educated, they are not hungry, they can pursue more
principles of Expression and Happiness and all that goes with that – and
have a life that is more based on Experiencing-Themselves in the Time
they’ve been given on this Earth.
With a Labour-System: one
will be able to Equalize everyone into a Credit-System that will allow
all the people that really want some more ‘luxury experiences’ or
experiences related to entertainment to gain those, through simply doing
labour – whether the labour is producing food or whether the labour is
producing a television or the labour is being a lawyer or the labour
being...ehm...is being a doctor or whether the labour planning what
happens to the sewage of the town, Town-planning, or basic
Water-planning – whatever it is according to what one is...you know,
you’ll do your labour according to what you enjoy and where you feel you
could serve your fellow man effectively;
And for those
Labour-Units you’ll be able to then...ehm...use to obtain
‘valued-added-items’ from the perspective of entertainment and the
perspective of ‘having Fun’ in this reality.
In allowing
Everyone to be in an Equal position in terms of your Basic Needs,
providings...provide-ments in terms of Food, Shelter and related things
like Education, and your Value -System as to that which motivates those
that want to work = that will place Everyone in a position that those
that do work or do use labour to obtain their items will have items –
those that don’t will still have Food, so that nobody will suffer
needlessly – and you will have a Free-Choice whether you labour or not.
So Free-Choice is taken care of and within that your Choice is balanced = best for All – using a Micro-chip.
Because a Micro-chip – it’ll be possible to actually manage a System
like this, where one take-out all control that could ever be in the
hands of the Few = by having an Administrative-body that is then elected
by All –ehm...through using technology.
With a simple Rule:
that nobody may be ‘in-office’ longer than a year so your Council or
your Administrative-body that oversee the management of the Basic
ehm...Wage-System serving All People Equally as Life and your basic
Labour-System = will be changing Yearly, and will be a Basic-Service for
the Best for All.
Ehm...We don’t even need Agreement by all
people on Earth to do this – because, I mean, our leaders as they are
now: already have all power – they can actually implement a System like
this with great Ease;
All it will cost them is obviously giving-up
their power. And in that: bringing forth an Equal-position. So either
they will have to co-operate, or we will have to become the new Leaders
of the world; put-in new politicians that will ACTUALLY implement a
System that’s Best for All.
Very simple point because from a Desteni perspective: We will pursue this point vigorously.
Now ehm...now I’m looking for negative-points about the Chip. Ehm...
the main point about the Chip is that you’re gonna be controlled and
you’re gonna be somehow ‘in-a-jail’. Now – that is a Fallacy – because:
to control all the people on Earth and having them in a point where they
are...ehm...rushed-off to be terminated and executed and so on – that
won’t happen because:
your Elite if you look at it in the
world is ‘invisible’ – they cannot become visible because they are too
small-a-group and are then in Real danger.
Their only safety is in
the fact that they are invisible. They will remain invisible, they will
never become...ehm...exposed - because their exposure will immediately
place them at grave risk.
There is not a single-force in this
world that can protect them, if they are known at this stage to humanity
who they are / there are just too many beings that’s willing to
actually do something about it.
So the Elite will remain
invisible; Their control at this stage is actually: using all the
gullible Conspiracy-Theorists and the fearful-Multitude – to spread
Rumours as fast as possible and keeping themself (the
conspiracy-theorists) in a mental-jail based just on Rumours, on
Conjecture, so they can be ‘special’ – in being ‘the One’ that ‘exposed a
great ‘Conspiracy against Humanity’’.
There is no such
conspiracy! The conspiracy is fuelled to the benefit of the Few by the
Many – because the Many is unable to sit-down and actually Agree on what
is Best for All at a single point.
We suggest what is Best for
All is an Minimum Wage from Birth to Life (to Death) for Every
human-being. That automatically Serves the Purpose of making-sure that
each one has got Food, Shelter and Education.
Those Basic-points
taken care of = will place each-person in a position to actually
consider Living differently. Because that will Remove much of the
tension and stress that cause Violence in society, it Removes many of
the Disease-formed points;
And a Micro-chip will actually
allow an Equal-Health-System – because according to your...the tracking
of your...behaviour through a System:
you’ll be in a position where
you can ‘defend your actions’ - because you have Proof of what you’ve
done and nobody will be able to falsely-accuse you of anything, because
your movements will be known.
And - Having all your movements
known: the only beings/the only humans that will not want their
movements known to everyone else = is those that are deliberately
dishonest! I mean, what is the point of hiding what you’re doing?!
And in an Equal-Wage-System: where you have a Labour-System for your
point of ‘benefit of the luxuries’ – I mean, you are...You have all the
Power in your Hands in what you do with your life and how you live your
life.
If you then want to pursue a Happiness and...from the
perspective of Not-using Labour: you can still do so! There will be
groups that can do so - I mean, you have your Food, you have your
Shelter, and you can have some Fun; Not all things will cost Money or
Credits or Labour - Some things are just FUN.
Now – I’m still
looking-for some more negative points on the Micro-chip here: Ehm... it
seems to be (that) Control is the main issue and the Fear that’s linked
to Control and...All the issues around the Micro-chip is simply Control;
There’s no-other point.
Ehm...Let’s look at Licensing: I
mean, to have your ‘licensed’, your ability to for instance drive a car
or to manage a point which involves the possible-harm to other people:
you know, which is for instance driving a Truck or a Airplane or so on –
a license for that is necessary from the perspective: to make sure that
your skills are not impaired - Because the Ego tend-to demand that one
is ‘fine’ when you’re not ‘fine’ –
to have any ‘erratic behaviour’
recognized by the System to immediately have appropriate Help given to a
person that is developing a...a ‘disorder’ that may harm others through
a motorcar-accident = will be to the benefit of All.
I mean -
so the control of those kind of points is absolutely relevant – because
the only thing that’ll stand in the way is Ego, because there is
nothing-else that can stand in the way of that – Ehm...
Obviously
with an Equal-Wage-System and where the decision is made that: All
...ehm... ‘Value’ is based on a system that is based on the
Value-of-Life = you do Not have an Economic-System that’s based on
Profit: so nobody profits from anyo...anything.
You get a
Direct-Result on your Labour – you have a System through which you can
utilize your Food and your Shelter-module – that is based on an
Equal-System for everyone – that is based on the available-Resources,
no-one can have more than another – you can have a ‘better house’
through using your Labour to build a better house –but: the whole
Profit-System which is what a lot of the ‘Law of Attraction’-things is
being based on, to ‘have this...’ to be ‘wealthy’ – ehm...:
Your WEALTH is in: your Time which you can spend effectively with things you really-Enjoy = that’s Real Wealth!
The System will provide for such Real-Wealth situations – ehm... In
terms of your Basic-Services: that will be provided by a Labour-System;
Obviously we will go into Detail of how these things ‘work’ in-detail,
we have already been looking at...testing-out all the various Options
that is available to test-out if this System will ‘work’: it is so-far
standing the ‘Test of Time’ – which is the Ultimate-point for any
System:
Will it stand the Test of Time?
And it’s standing
the Test of Time – while our current Money-System = our
Profit(-system), our Capitalist-system, our Communist-systems as it used
to be: All of these Systems: None of them has actually stood the Test
of Time.
Now you’re gonna have some Smart-Asses that’ll
actually try and categorize what we are doing. Why don’t you just Stop
and Consider: We are looking for an Answer that’s Best for All.
If You do not see that and you do not want to see that – consider your
particular-position of Self-Honesty: whether you’re actually interested
in any point that is Best for All –
which includes You obviously, I mean: a Best-for-All-Solution includes Everyone!
Obviously, your Desires which was based on a time when one was
programmed to actually ‘want more than another’ – a time of
‘Competition’ – will no-longer be valid;
‘competition’ will be an
Expression: if one want to go and do Sport or Athletics and so on, that
becomes an Expression according to your Skill. It’s no-longer one where
you’ll gain Profit from your ‘expertise’ or ‘the way you look’ – All of
those things are really only used to ‘bamboozle the Multitude’ into all
kinds of ‘hopes’ and ‘desires of some Greatness’ which is in the end of
the day based-on ‘Success and Money’ -ehm...on ‘Wealth’, which is
ludicrous in a System that does not have sufficient for All in the first
place, as a Money-System.
Because there isn’t sufficient – as
it has been demonstrated many times through the ways our Markets is
going Up-and-Down = there is a Problem, and this Problem is not going to
be resolved.
We also do not want to wait till we have Multitudes
Looting Shops, destroying the Basic-Infrastructure because they are
Hungry - and then at the end of the day:
still having to capitulate
to a point where you HAVE to introduce an Equal-Wage-System and (where)
you HAVE to consider (because your life is threatened by those that has
No Food) you have to consider a System which is based in the
Value-of-Life, where – it’s no different to what we have now, where it
is based-on the Value of your Debt: where we have to create Money
through Debt; We can just as well create Money through Making it Equal
to the Value of Life. Which then at-least is an Equal-System – because:
there’s sufficient Money according to the amount of Living-beings on the
Planet.
And according to that ehm...one can plan your
Labour-points and producing Food and related items, and there will be
sufficient people that actually DO CARE.
Those that profess
‘Love’, I mean, that will be your opportunity to really prove that your
‘Love’ is real. You’re going to then work for...your Labour is gonna be
in Service of your fellow-man. You’re gonna actually prove that you do
‘care about your neighbour’ – I mean, all these ‘wonderful points’.
Now – in all of this, obviously, have you noticed? No religion is
necessary, which is wonderful – Religion in itself is sentimental in
va...value, and will have-nothing-to-do with the Basic Life-giving Needs
that is required for Every human being on Earth.
Religion is
simply irrelevant; it is something that is ‘relevant’ for your
Afterlife, if you want to follow a particular-Pursuit that will
according to your Belief ‘solve your life’ in the Afterlife = that you
can do in your own Time, I mean, you will have enough Food, you will
have enough Shelter, you’ll be able to do it:
And that is only
sentimental, it’s got no bearing whatsoever – no bearing whatsoever on
anything that’s going-on in this Physical-World in terms of the
Basic-Needs for People in terms of: Food, Shelter and Education.
Ehm...Then those kind of points (religion) will be completely excluded
from any System – because that is the part that will remain personal,
although obviously one can debate it if you really want to but: it is
irrelevant within the Context of whether the Micro-chip is ‘positive’ or
‘negative’.
The whole point of the Micro-chip being a Number
-666- or the ‘Mark of the Beast’ – I mean: Every single human-being in
this world is already bearing the Mark of the Beast: if you have a
Bank-Account = you have the Mark of the Beast; if you Buy any Product =
you are participating in the Mark of the Beast; if you have Money in
your Pocket = you have the Mark of the Beast; Ehm...Anything that you’re
doing now: having an Electricity-Account, having a Telephone, having a
Cell-Phone, having Water-Accounts = All of that is the Mark of the Beast
= You have it already.
So you can just as well now go to a more effective ‘Mark of the Beast’ - being a Micro-chip.
And in that very Chip we will be able to actually find a far more
suitable Solution, where one can be able to...to have a System that
Control Us – so that we do not harm each-other unnecessary.
This will obviously being a Global-System –that’s what’s so wonderful
about the New World Order – because it place everything in place for a
Global-System that’s Best for All; ehm..where there will be
no...no-longer be Boundaries, no-longer be controls through
Passport-travelling –you’ll be simply Moving and be tracked through your
Micro-chip.
You’ll be able to know whether somebody wants to
Blow-up your place or not, if ehm...but there would be no need – because
you’re no-longer fighting about religion, everybody’s got Food;
Religion is your thing for the Afterlife I mean – you’re only gonna
find-out in the Afterlife if what you belief was really true or not –
isn’t it?
It’s got Nothing to do (with) what’s going on Here on
Earth – whatsoever. It does Not Feed you, it does Not provide you with
Shelter – there is no such thing.
These things are done through
Decisions made by us All as Humans: We decide what’s best for All, we
implement it, it works = it’s Best for All.
Have a Look: You
can in the Afterlife ‘stand before God’ –if you believe there is such a
thing- and say, you know, explain to him Why you believed what you did.
But, there is no-way you’ll be able to say to him, I mean: “Ah, I
wanted just money for me and not for everyone else” – that would be not
best for All and – I’m sure if there is a ‘God’ he’ll be rather
pissed-off with you not-considering Everyone as Equal within the Context
of this Reality.
We are All Equal in the context of this
Reality – We All Breathe the Same Air – We All are under the Same Sun,
we’re under the Same Moon – We All Eat from the Earth -
Nothing that is existent is original, so ‘Copyright’ in itself will not exist.
But to ‘Copy something ‘Right’’ so that when you make a Product that it
lasts - and that it’s not made to only last for a short-while so you
can sell-more products = Obviously many things will Change.
But – Everything that exist – have a look: comes from the Earth or (from) something that is Here before You got here.
Your knowledge is Not exclusive. The fact that you ‘find some point’
that actually ‘works together’ = is simply that you Recognized it.
It already existed before you saw it - you only Recognized it –
therefore you ‘bring it ‘into being’’, you create a product, you create
something that Everybody can benefit-from – you will not become rich
because of that - because that simply will not serve All best, that
would be Abuse of the Resources that is Here.
All Resources
are Already Here before you got Here – you have no ‘Right’-to-it: All
Resources Here Belongs to Everyone = that is the Value-of-Life – that is
the Support-of-Life; And if a ‘god’ exist: that is what that ‘god’
intended.
That is the point of ‘Dominion’ = Dominion meaning:
Whatever you do will have a Domino-Effect on Everything else – so
therefore Abuse of our Resources will Stop.
We will have lest ‘ranges’ of Products – because these things are done for Profit. We will NOT be working for Profit.
We’ll be working to make...give a Better-Life for All - a Better-Life
where All has Equal Food, Equal Shelter, Equal Education; and can pursue
your life in (which is pretty short, I mean, 70 years odd) ...and
pursue and make the best of it – and learn how to LIVE a Dignified-Life –
a Life which benefits You and through which you can benefit others –
learn what LOVE really means – because that certainly is not-understood
in this reality.
Ehm...I suggest that one consider these
points, again, there’s quite a number of positive points around the
Micro-chip; The negative points I’m still looking for more, it seems to
be ‘control’, ehm...
Bella: How about the point of the actual implementation of the Chip into the...
Bernard: Now the best-way to make sure everyone is protected from
each-other and not harming each-other or lose their Chips or be in a
disadvantage – is to put the Chip under the skin, which is quite safe,
and with having that under the skin one will be able to actually
pers...ehm...protect your ‘piece of connection’ to the System.
Bella: Has that been made...or done before – is it tested?
Bernard: It’s already been tested, there’s already groups...or Towns
that’s running on Chips, that’s already been tested, it is already
confirmed – your Body will be quite fine – I mean it’s also tested
through Time in terms of the point where...you can put-in Valves into
the Heart, artificial Valves, artificial points that’s implanted in the
body = that’s already proven that there is these things that DO work -
and the Body is quite fine with it.
And it will be best to have
implanted - then you won’t lose it and nobody else will be able to
steal it – and if anybody does: it will be easy to actually solve the
problem; Your Crime-ratios will Decline immensely – Corruption will End –
ehm...You will have No-more Abuse between people to the extent that it
exist now.
One of the things that we obviously will also
propose is the End of all Alcohol – because that is one of the single
things which is Profit-driven that cause most-Harm in this world where
beings tend-to abuse -
either in Families or in Public- because of
their desire to Suppress their Discomfort and dis...the fact that they
are not enjoying their life -
And each one that has been
extensively involved with Alcohol will be able to sit-down and actually
come to a Self-Honest Realization = they only used Alcohol to Suppress
their fears and anxieties and their discontent with their lives
and...where they were unable to actually Express-themselves - because
they felt ‘unworthy’ – they tried to ‘build a ‘worth’’ through Alcohol.
There was never really a benefit for the use of Alcohol – it was very much based only on (dogs barking - End of interview).