Interview by Bernard, recorded on the 9th of November 2009

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So, ‘Energy’ - and ‘the ‘Transcendence’ of ‘Energy’’.

Now - one must Understand – that you-Have – ‘various ‘Forms’ of ‘Energy’’ and that – ‘in-Essence’: ‘Energy’ – once it is ‘Created’ - Remains ‘Always ‘in-Motion’’.

And Even when you ‘Store-it’ – you Cannot ‘Store ‘Energy’ ‘Indefinitely’’ = It will ‘Always ‘tend-to’... want to “Continue its Journey”.

And ‘‘its Journey’ is ‘Always Implied’ ‘Within the Context of its Design’’.

‘‘Energy’ in the ‘Physical’’ is very ‘Simple’, because – it ‘Operates’ according-to particular ‘Input-Output ‘Stimuli’’. So – according to the ‘Stimulus’, a particular ‘‘Energy’ will be ‘Created’’ and it may be ‘‘Stored’ ‘temporarily’ in a particular ‘Form’’ until it is ‘‘released’ from that ‘Form’ through an ‘Impulse’’ – and then it ‘Takes-on Another-‘Form’’.

Each-One of those ‘Forms’ are ‘Definitively ‘Defined’’ – And, in many-cases Even ‘in a way’ ‘Unrelated’ – meaning: it Has ‘Total-Different ‘Functions’’.

One must Understand with ‘Energy’ – that ‘Energy’ has a ‘Presence’ = The ‘Presence’ Is what you ‘Experience as a ‘Feeling’’, Or an ‘Emotion’, and that - it is ‘very-easy’ to be ‘‘Caught-up’ in the ‘Flow’ of the ‘Presence’’;

And to ‘Assume’ that that ‘‘Flow’ Indicate some Form-of ‘Life-Force’’ – when ‘In-Fact’ it is ‘not a ‘Life-Force’’ – it is simply a ‘‘Energy’-Movement’ that you are actually ‘Picking-up’ and ‘Giving ‘Impetus’-to’, you ‘Give-it ‘Value’’, you ‘Give-it ‘Meaning’’. And then ‘accordingly’ it ‘Creates an ‘Experience’’ that is ‘‘Energy’-Based’, and That-‘Experience’ then will-‘Move according to its ‘Design’’ – and - ‘Presence’.

So, If you for-Instance ‘Look-at’ a ‘Process’-of ‘Thinking about Someone’, say you are ‘in a Relationship’ and you ‘‘Notice’ another-Person that is ‘‘Eyeing’ your Partner’ – You ‘start ‘Thinking about-it’’. The first-‘Impulse’ is where you-‘Notice’ ‘there is ‘Interest’’, there is an ‘‘Energy’-‘Interest’’ in your Partner - you immediately will-Find that you ‘Go into a ‘energetic-Experience’’ by Accepting that ‘That Condition ‘exists’’ – then you start to ‘Fuel’-it – that means ‘you Give-it ‘Energy’’ by ‘Thinking about-it’ – and ‘slowly but surely’ you ‘Become-‘Possessed’’ in a ‘State of ‘Energy’’ called: ‘Jealousy’ - that starts to ‘Influence the ‘Way you-Act’’, the ‘Way you-are Around your Partner’ – you will ‘Change the ‘Way you-Speak’’, you will ‘Change ‘the Way you-Touch’’, you will ‘Change ‘the Way you-‘Love’’ = ‘All of that’ ‘Based on the ‘‘Presence’ of the ‘Energy’’ that is Now ‘‘Dominant’ Within-you’ called ‘Jealousy’’.

Within That you will-Now be a ‘‘Jealous’ Person’.

The ‘Interesting thing’ is that – it ‘Isn’t ‘What you-Are’’ = you are ‘Not That ‘Jealousy’’.

You-are that-‘Experience’ through the ‘Allowance of an ‘energetic ‘Entity’-‘Possession’’.

‘Energy’ can-‘Only, Ever, Exist’ in the ‘Form’ of a ‘Defined-‘Entity’’ – that means: ‘Something ‘Defined’ according to particular ‘Purpose’ or ‘Reason’’, that will –‘according to that ‘Purpose and Reason’’- ‘Move’ and, accordingly ‘Have a particular ‘energetic-‘Outcome’’.

‘‘Energy’-Itself’ = is ‘Not a ‘Life-Force’’.

‘Who You Really Are’ = is Not-‘Energy’ ‘at-All’.

You are Existent in-‘Consciousness’ which is: a particular-‘Design’, which was ‘Purposefully’-Done, to ‘Trap’-you within the ‘Cycles of ‘Energy’’ that ‘‘Seemingly’ has a ‘Presence’ of ‘Infinity’’ – that means it ‘Seemingly Apparently exist-‘Infinite’’.

But ‘it-Doesn’t’.

It ‘Changes-‘Form’’, and through ‘Moving from One ‘State-of-‘Energy’’ to Another ‘State-of-‘Energy’’ - which is the-Same as ‘Shapeshifting’ – so it ‘‘Shifts’ the ‘Shape’ within-Which it-Exist’; By ‘Shapeshifting’ like-that, You are, ‘through your-‘Experiences’’, Coming to the ‘Conclusion’ that, apparently it is ‘eternal’ and that - Eventually you start to ‘‘Identify’-yourself As this ‘Energy’’ –  Then you must-Know: ‘you’re in ‘Serious Trouble’’; because ‘in That ‘Identity-Crisis’ you will-Have’ = you will ‘Keep-on Moving’ – ‘Shape-Shifting’ – ‘Shifting’ in the ‘Form’ that you are ‘Experience’-yourself According-to ‘the ‘Presence’ of the ‘Energy’’ that is ‘pervasive’ and ‘‘Dominant’ Within-you’ that at Any-given-Moment’, ‘dependent on the ‘Impulses’ that you-have ‘Submitted’-Yourself’ to’ – where You Have ‘Allowed those ‘‘Energy’-‘Forces’’ to ‘take-you Over’’.

‘The Point’ is: to ‘be Able to Walk ‘Within-‘Energy’’ in this Reality’ (which obviously includes All the ‘Dimensions’ of-it) – Without the ‘Energy’ being Something that ‘Direct ‘Who You Are’’ – That you do Not-become an ‘‘Entity-Possessed’ Being’ that ‘Search-Continuously for More-‘Sources’’, or ‘‘Resources’ of ‘Energy’’.

Simply- because ‘Within ‘Energy’’ you will have an ‘Interesting point’ – that you will ‘tend to-be’ ‘‘Not Interested’ in Any ‘other-Being’ but Yourself’.

You will ‘tend-to’ Have ‘‘Justification’-Systems’ within-which you can ‘Generate ‘Energy’’, and then – if you have an ‘‘Energy’ in Abundance’ (which you Obviously ‘Got from Someone-Else’) – you’ll ‘Give-it to ‘Another-Being’’, but there will Always be, ‘implied’ or ‘tacit’, ‘‘Conditions’ ‘Infused’ Within the ‘Energy’ you are ‘Transferring to Another’’.

It’s very-much like a ‘Money-System’: where you will ‘Give-Money to Somebody ‘under Certain-Conditions’’.

So – And there is Always the ‘Implied-‘Condition’’ that ‘you-Want the ‘Energy’ back’ – so you’ll say to the Person: “I love you” – but ‘You Want ‘Energy’ back’ – You Want the Person to ‘say-Back to-you’: “I love you”, and to ‘Give and Show ‘Love’’.

So – Your-‘Love’ is Not-‘Unconditional’ – because your-‘Love’ Cannot remain ‘Unconditional’, because it’ll ‘Run-out of ‘Energy’’.

And therefore ‘You want ‘Love’ Back’, so that You can-‘Know’ you-can ‘Keep-on ‘Loving’’ – and that ‘Your ‘Love’ was ‘worthwhile’’. And In-That All, you have an ‘Experience’, which is = a ‘Presence’. That ‘Presence’ Is what is ‘Experienced’ ‘within the Current-‘Condition’ of ‘Consciousness’ as ‘the ‘Now’’.

A ‘Process of Continuous ‘Energy’-‘Resourcing’ and Direction’ –‘‘Flow’ and ‘Movement’’ – and According to-That – you must Understand that ‘‘Energy’ Is ‘Always-Following the ‘Shortest-Path’ between Two-‘Points’’ – therefore – it-will thus ‘Create ‘wonderful Geometrical Shapes’’ – which many Call ‘Sacred-Geometry’ – I mean, it is...it ‘Looks ‘beautiful’’, and from-it Emanates ‘‘beautiful’-Colours’, ‘depending on the ‘Frequency’ of the ‘Energy’’ it’ll have a ‘’beautiful’-Colour’ – and As you have Become that ‘Energy’, you will ‘tend-to’ be ‘able to ‘See’-it’ – which is Seemingly a ‘Psychic’ – and you will then be able to ‘Look at a Human-Being’, which is...when a Human-Being is ‘Completely-‘Possessed’’ by ‘Energy’’ –‘Energy’ in its ‘Various ‘Nodes’ and ‘Modes’ of ‘Storage’’, for Instance - is where ‘Knowledge’, ‘Information’ and ‘Memories’ is ‘Stored’; they’re ‘‘Stored’ within the Human-Body’ ‘within Geometrical-‘Grids’’ –‘Magnetic-‘Grids’’- as ‘Energy’,

and that-‘Energy’ will Emanate a...a ‘Presence’ and a ‘Colour’ and everything, and you’ll be able to ‘Look’ at-it – and within the ‘System that is ‘Running’-Within’, that is ‘‘Managing’ All of these ‘energetic-Events’’ – That will Run Through a ‘Pulley-System’ – where you’ll Have...your ‘Chakras’, if you really Look at them, you’ll Notice they are ‘‘Round’ in Nature’, as they are ‘Running’ and they are ‘Spinning’ – Because they are ‘‘Spinning’ According to the ‘Energy’ you’re ‘Dealing-with’’; Yet – if you ‘go-Back’ to the ‘Point’ of ‘Where this All Started-off’ and ‘How it All Came-About’ – you’ll notice: that the ‘Energy’ in-Itself = is purely - Actually ‘Possessing’-You.

It’s ‘‘worthwhile’ Studying the ‘Condition’’ to Understand your ‘particular ‘Predicament’’.

The ‘Energy’ or the ‘Inner-G’.

When the ‘Inner-G’ becomes your ‘Inner-God’, your ‘Inner-Divinity’ – ‘your-‘Experience’ of ‘Divinity’ as ‘Energy’’ = You’re obviously – ‘In an ‘Advanced-Stage’ of ‘Self-Delusion’’ – and – it will Require ‘Extensive-‘Impacts’’ in your life, ‘before you Start to Realize that You have been ‘Deceiving-Yourself’’ – and, Obviously ‘In the Process of ‘Self-Deception’ You will be ‘Deceiving Others’’ - You will ‘Convert’-them to a ‘‘State’ of ‘Energy’’, ‘through a ‘Conversion’-Process’ – by ‘Getting-them to ‘Submit’ to your ‘Belief’ that the ‘Energy’ is ‘Real’ ;and Then they will ‘All’ be ‘Like-You’ in a ‘‘Hypnotic’-State’ of ‘Energy’-‘Presence’.

Which will ‘Vary’ obviously – and That will-‘Give Everyone’ a ‘Perceived-‘Individuality’’.

This ‘Individuality’ though ‘Isn’t-‘Real’’ - As it is simply a ‘Presence’ ‘Based-on the Current ‘‘Energy’-State’’; The Being ‘Will Change’ – If You ‘Sit and ‘Watch’ a Being for Seven Days’:

You’ll ‘Watch’ ‘the Being Go through ‘Multiple’-Stages of ‘Energy’-‘Presence’’ – which will be...one can Call ‘Personalities’ – because ‘Each ‘Energy’-‘State’ will have a ‘Personality’’ – which is your ‘Personality-Disorder’ – And You will ‘Learn through ‘Experience’’ ‘Which of these ‘‘States’ of ‘Possession’’ ‘works-Best’ for-You ‘Within the ‘System of the World’’, where you can ‘‘Manage’-Yourself’ and be ‘‘Accepted’ by Others and the System’ – so that You are ‘in a Position’ to: ‘Get More-‘Energy’’ – ‘No-matter What it-Takes’ – But ‘you will Not-‘Care’ about ‘Real’ ‘Living-Things’’.

You-‘Cannot’ – because, You Believe that the ‘Energy’ is ‘Alive’ – It ‘Isn’t’ – It is ‘Following its ‘Program’’ = It-‘‘Runs’ According to a ‘Program’’.

 ‘Very ‘Important’ to ‘Study-This’’ – Because: As Long as you ‘Work-with ‘Energy’’ – You’re ‘Not even ‘close’ to What ‘You Really Are’ as a ‘‘Resonant’-Self’’ = that means ‘That Which Is Here’, and ‘how That even ‘Works’ Within ‘Energy’’.

There is ‘a ‘Lot’ to be ‘Understood’’ about ‘What it-is that has-‘Happened’ to Man’ – and ‘Why Man has-Become Such an ‘Abusive ‘Possession’’, ‘‘Possessed’-Being’, that Is ‘‘Deliberately’ ‘Not-Willing’’ to ‘Consider that there is ‘Something ‘Wrong’’ in This ‘‘Picture’ called ‘Reality’’.